Finding Flow with the Friendly Universe Whispers. A Conversation with Founder of Ask an Angel, Christopher Dilts. (Epi. # 185)

Bio:

Christopher has facilitated large and small angel gatherings and individual Angel sessions in the Americas and in Europe for over 20 years. Ordained in the Church of Divine Unity after five years of intensive study in spiritual and energetic healing, Christopher has also worked alongside master spiritual healers from many of the world’s spiritual traditions.

 He has trained extensively with teachers from the Barbara Brennan School of Healing®, Energy Mastery School®, and the Energy Healing Institute®. He has also attended Doreen Virtue’s Angel Therapy Practitioner and Professional Spiritual Teacher Trainings. He has completed many other spiritual training programs as well as having practiced yoga for over 25 years.

Christopher is a successful tech innovator and has started 5 companies and created strategic partnerships with IBM, Unisys, Motorola and others. He is able to help organizations and businesses accept divine help and assistance in areas essential to prosperous and successful operations.

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Transcript

[00:00:00] Shilpa Lewis: Welcome, Christopher. 

[00:00:05] Christopher Dilts: Well, great to see you. It's so wonderful to be here with you for this preparation. Let's do it again. Start again. I can 

[00:00:18] Shilpa Lewis: always cut that out. Welcome, Christopher. 

[00:00:24] Christopher Dilts: Well, it's wonderful to be here with you. We've had so many discussions in the past. I'm very excited about this topic of energy awareness and how to bring a I can sense of energy awareness and intuition into all of the decisions that people are making about their business about opportunities about the relationships and I'm really excited to for our topic of how to call upon.

[00:00:49] Christopher Dilts: Energy greater than you, right? The divine assistance, we would say, or grace to really come in and energize and lift the efforts you're engaged in. 

[00:00:59] Shilpa Lewis: [00:01:00] Absolutely. I am so sincerely excited. One of my pillars, as you know, is energy awareness, and it may seem esoteric to a lot of people, even myself. Over time, I've developed and cultivated a deeper understanding of energy awareness.

[00:01:15] Shilpa Lewis: And today, I'm We are talking about energy awareness and intuition for work and relationships, because in the grander scheme of things, work is really about some of the purpose behind how we serve others. It could be in the realm of corporate, or it could be in the realm of being an entrepreneur and relationships.

[00:01:36] Shilpa Lewis: And those relationships are with everyone. And we manage energy. Based on the type of relationships we have. So I would just love to dive in and have you share, um, even your backstory and how you arrived in this space. 

[00:01:55] Christopher Dilts: Yes, I'd love to. And you're so right on with what you're saying. If we [00:02:00] go to the fundamentals of creation and how things are created.

[00:02:04] Christopher Dilts: It really is all energy, whether we take an approach from physics and quantum physics, right, about that energy is both wave and particle, and that when you focus consciously upon a quantum particle or wave, it changes, right? It's interacting. There's an interplay of the energy of the universe and of our energy.

[00:02:23] Christopher Dilts: I'm actually even thinking of one of the, you know, the famous Qigong affirmations when you're studying Qigong, which is you simply say, I I'm in the universe. The universe is in me. I and the universe are one. Right, you know, very, very Taoist, you know, very Zen, but it is really true. It's this partnership of the energy that we have individuated into as our self, as our being the, you know, the soul that is embodied in this lifetime and then interaction with the energy of the universe around us and the other people.

[00:02:58] Christopher Dilts: So heightening energy [00:03:00] awareness really does assist in making decisions. I'll pause there for a moment. That's a lot. 

[00:03:08] Shilpa Lewis: It's a lot yet. I feel like you touched upon so many facets of what we. In the modern day world, now we're beginning to interpret is, um, something very real. We get so caught up in the mind and thinking we're this physical being and what we see through our eyes is the reality.

[00:03:28] Shilpa Lewis: But once we go into, say, the science of it, in quantum physics, versus even the esoteric, which is more of the, what some people call the woohoo science of spirituality, there's, I believe, fundamentally, it's mathematics, and it's all 

[00:03:46] Christopher Dilts: Well, you know, um, Albert Einstein, who was a very scientific guy, the older he became as his life went on, the more spiritual he became.

[00:03:55] Christopher Dilts: And he said things like God didn't throw dice with the universe, but he also said [00:04:00] something that is really right on top of this topic. He said, the single most important decision you can make is whether you believe you live in a friendly universe. Or a hostile one, right? And there's an energy. Is the universe there to support me, to bring out my best, to optimize every opportunity for my soul gifts to be created, to come into form?

[00:04:23] Christopher Dilts: Or is it this dangerous, hostile place that is more the, you know, predator prey, Consciousness, the, um, predator and victim, right? The lower functions of our brain, they, you know, down, down in that part, and then shifting that consciousness and lifting an energy, it just tremendously broadens the creative opportunities to choose things, to bring more love into the world, right?

[00:04:48] Christopher Dilts: Bring more connection into the world, bring more abundance. It's the friendly universe. It's an abundant universe. It is not a zero sum game, right? It is a win win win, [00:05:00] not a win lose. And when we align with that energy, that's like, um, like I loved sailing when I was a boy, and I still do. And you know, when you put the sail up, and the wind flows into that sail, there's an energy Greater than you moving the ship forward.

[00:05:15] Christopher Dilts: And then your work, right? As the captain or crew on that boat is to keep the sails aligned, keep the sheets trimmed, you know, just to try to stay on course and let this force bigger than you carry you. And that's when we really become more adept at energy awareness or intuition. It's literally like being a much better sailor.

[00:05:36] Christopher Dilts: If we become very mentally bound, right, we're trying to do it all with our mind, that becomes like rowing a rowboat instead of sailing and it exhausts us and we, um, you know, quickly lose the ability to just keep rowing nonstop. So we really want to focus on that low of energy greater than us, right? And that ties into some of [00:06:00] the deep core Purposes, our sole purpose, our, our focus, our soul gifts.

[00:06:07] Christopher Dilts: And when we are aligned and attuned with those, it's like having that sailboat perfectly trimmed right to, to just glide across the water. 

[00:06:17] Shilpa Lewis: And you just touched upon again, so many facets of what I. Resonate with when you were saying that, and I will paraphrase, but in the very beginning you were talking about we choose the reality, but it's hard to believe that we are choosing it.

[00:06:34] Shilpa Lewis: The energy that we align with vibrationally then ripples into the reality we face. And I know this sounds like maybe some people are like, well, that lacks in compassion because the wars in some parts of the world are real that the pain is real. And so it's not to not acknowledge it, but there's more energy manifested based [00:07:00] on, um, our thinking.

[00:07:03] Shilpa Lewis: Does that make sense? 

[00:07:05] Christopher Dilts: It completely makes sense, and you know, we're at a very important time in history, the evolution. We're at a time where physics and quantum physics are meeting spirituality. One of my friends has a PhD at Harvard, and her specialty is quantum physics. And she, you know, she will quote from the Upanishads, Bhagavad Gita, like these ancient Hindu texts and scrolls.

[00:07:31] Christopher Dilts: That now sounds so close to what the leading quantum physicists, the language they use to describe the universe and how things happen. So this is a key point, you know, this idea that we create our reality or co create our reality, while it's true and quantum physics will support it, as will most of the mystical traditions of the major spiritual traditions on earth.

[00:07:54] Christopher Dilts: It's a new concept. It really only entered. You know, we could say Western [00:08:00] consciousness, you know, at around 1900, one of the great, um, Swami's, uh, Gurus of India, Swami Vivekananda, came to the Parliament of World Religions, and he brought from the East, this textbook, Concept of what we're talking about, right?

[00:08:17] Christopher Dilts: How how we're all energy. We are souls in the physical body that are literally vessels, you know, of all the goodness of the universe. Shortly after that, um, Paramahansa Yogananda. came in about 1920. These were the first two really great masters from the East to come to the West, and they brought with them this concept that you create your own reality.

[00:08:40] Christopher Dilts: Now that permeated our culture to the point, right, it got into leading thinkers, and it got into the Theosophical Society. Yoga started to become popular, and it opened it up to where cultural icons like the Beatles, right, went to India, and they met. Ravi Shankar, [00:09:00] and they went from I want to hold your hand music to, you know, my sweet Lord music.

[00:09:05] Christopher Dilts: I was 

[00:09:07] Shilpa Lewis: hearing that. I love their music. Yes. 

[00:09:10] Christopher Dilts: So it's a really new concept. And we could consider ourselves all, you know, we're, we're, we're learning how to do this. So for most of it's a combination of co creation, right? We come more and more aware. We use our conscious, our energy. We partner more and more with the universe, like we have that Chagall quote, right?

[00:09:32] Christopher Dilts: I am in the universe, the universe is in me, I and the universe are one. Then coming from that point of view, we go with Albert Einstein, it's a friendly universe, and we start creating more and more from love. and less and less from fear. The, the work that I do focuses very much on angels, angelic energy.

[00:09:53] Christopher Dilts: An angel comes from the Greek word angelos, which means messenger. And this message is [00:10:00] really holographic. It's energetic first. It's a flow of energy, you know, energy waves, a lifting of energy. It is always based in love and always based in light and a unconditional love, right? That, gives to you. It has a feeling of grace, like the sun that shines on everyone, right?

[00:10:19] Christopher Dilts: Unconditional. The sun shines on every leaf on every tree and every blade of grass. It doesn't make choices. It doesn't hold back. So that kind of a shift, right? We're moving into that 1900 till now, to where we are. We're, we're, we're kind of working with Is love really unconditional? Is it really unlimited?

[00:10:40] Christopher Dilts: Is there really enough for everyone? And we're right in this changing time, right? This shift of consciousness, which means it's a lot of work, right? It's a lot we're talking about really deep intense. Personal growth to business growth. My background, um, professionally was in technology. I started [00:11:00] coding programming as a teenager.

[00:11:02] Christopher Dilts: I left high school early, college early, went to work in aerospace at Space Park Redondo Beach on satellites with a lot of smart people from Caltech and JPL and MIT and others. And, um, I was very technologically oriented, very scientifically oriented. I wasn't open to the kinds of concepts we're talking about right now.

[00:11:24] Christopher Dilts: I would just say, Hey, if it's in physics, it's in proof, you know, that that's real. But, um, you know, that experience of, of being in high tech, working on satellites, I had left that after about, A little less than three years and started a software business and that business did grow and it did increase and I was, I joined a couple of groups, um, one of them, uh, the executive committee attack, they give you a facilitator who takes you through a process, right?

[00:11:56] Christopher Dilts: A month long process and you get this [00:12:00] realization experience that your business is actually really a reflection of your own consciousness, right? So we're creating a reality and this process brings you right into seeing the reflection back and you go, this is amazing. I'm creating my own reality. It's all, I'm, I am my business.

[00:12:20] Christopher Dilts: And then you also are horrified. Oh my God, every, every, every issue in my business is also reflected inside of me. Wow. There's a lot to do. But it's that interplay again, and I like bringing back that, uh, sail, sailing metaphor because, you know, when you're really sailing, you're constantly course correcting, the currents carrying you one way, the winds blowing you another way, so you're constantly aligning, right, getting back on true course, but you're almost never exactly on a true course, and so what can happen with our mind and in business is we can lose track of the [00:13:00] fact That we simply are being given guidance, right?

[00:13:04] Christopher Dilts: Get back on the right course, a little too far to the port, a little too far to starboard. We get back on course again, but we're always in this flow and everything's always shifting. So if we bring that awareness in, what we're really looking for, right, is a true course and to know when we're off course.

[00:13:23] Christopher Dilts: Are we a little too far to the left, too far to the right? 

[00:13:27] Shilpa Lewis: You know, and Christopher, what you mentioned earlier, and again, I may not articulate it as effectively, but you were talking about becoming more aware of, I would say, guidance or, um, how to tune into the right direction of the flow, which is for our highest good.

[00:13:47] Shilpa Lewis: Um, there are different ways we can receive that. Um, and two things come to mind. One is that your work early on with angels. And understanding their [00:14:00] connection with guiding us is one way, but also, um, meditation, which is my tool. I, I use that every morning. Um, I know that there's someone in this world of spirituality.

[00:14:14] Shilpa Lewis: She, she uses the term getting out ahead of it, whatever that it is, that's going to distort our mind or distort our understanding, or perception of energy that is really in alignment with our higher soul and purpose. So maybe, um, we can dive a tiny bit into that because I think of meditation, mindfulness, uh, Qigong as those tools to help recalibrate us, but also angels.

[00:14:44] Shilpa Lewis: And ironically, as spiritual as I am, I don't have that deep of an understanding or knowledge of angels. I'd love for you to enlighten me. 

[00:14:54] Christopher Dilts: Sure. Well, you know, you mentioned meditation, I really want to assure those people who aren't [00:15:00] regular meditators that meditation can be very simple. It can take as little as five to seven minutes or, or 10 to 12 minutes.

[00:15:08] Christopher Dilts: And it's so powerful to realign us and center us again, like we're using that sailboat metaphor. It's just really being aware of the course you're on, what the wind is like, the water coming right into the moment. There's some simple breathing exercises can help. And there are so many people that meditate that we don't.

[00:15:26] Christopher Dilts: Aren't aware of when we went to my favorite stories about meditation is from Jerry Seinfeld And he had the longest running comedy series ever and arguably one of the most successful comedians ever and someone asked him They said, you know, mr. Seinfeld. What's the key to your creativity your longevity your your your energy to do this for so many years?

[00:15:48] Christopher Dilts: and he said the key in the secret is Transcendental meditation. I meditate You And, and he said, it gets me to very, very deeply [00:16:00] relaxed, very clear, very strong, very steady. And then the interviewer asked him, well, isn't just sleeping make you feel rested? And Jerry Seinfeld being the comedian is, he said, are you kidding?

[00:16:12] Christopher Dilts: Have you ever looked at your bed when you wake up in the morning? The sheets over here, the duvets over there, the pillows over here, it's all crumpled up. You like fought a battle in the night. Meditation is so much more restful. So, um, you know, and even Steve Jobs, the founder of Apple, you know, he had only one book on his iPod.

[00:16:31] Christopher Dilts: And that book was the autobiography of a yogi, Paramahansa Yogananda. And I know you have, um, Yogananda's picture behind you. And that again is this example of creating your own reality, right? He was such a pioneer and innovator, and it was things like meditation that helped him too. 

[00:16:54] Shilpa Lewis: Yeah. A little backstory is that the year he had returned back to Apple is the [00:17:00] year I was interning there and I had no idea that he had such a strong connection to Yogananda.

[00:17:06] Shilpa Lewis: And, uh, one of the things that I, One quote I love of his, and I use it often, I feel like there's a deep spiritual connection to that quote, is something to the effect of, you don't connect the dots looking forward. It's like sometimes you see the dots, and there's a purpose, there's a flow, and you might be out of sync at times, but when you are in alignment, You will see, looking back, that there was a purpose behind those dots, and they were connecting to your soul's higher purpose.

[00:17:40] Shilpa Lewis: And so, having said that, I also believe that there's a level of determination that one cultivates or, um, gathers when they are tapped into energy awareness. Whether it be through meditation or other things, because then you are able to make that dent in the universe that Steve talked about. [00:18:00] 

[00:18:00] Christopher Dilts: Yes, and that combination of creativity, I mean, creation.

[00:18:06] Christopher Dilts: has creative energies, right? It has yin energies and yang energies, masculine and feminine, sun masculine, earth feminine. And it's that yin and yang energy when it's in balance, when it's most aligned, that it's most creative. So when we're working with energy, it's really about, um, are we attuning and aligning with our deepest purpose, or I'll call it soul purpose, and our highest mission, right?

[00:18:34] Christopher Dilts: Highest mission that we can achieve right now in the universe. And that again, it's like sailing. Are we, are we on the right ship? Do we have the right equipment? Have we sailed out of the harbor on a On a, you know, exiting tide, an outgoing tide, do we know what the wind conditions are? Do we make sure we aren't sailing right into a storm?

[00:18:54] Christopher Dilts: And to be practical with that and bring it into business decisions, we can use an [00:19:00] energy awareness scale. And I like to use an energy awareness scale that runs from zero to 1000. And, um, you know, Dr. David Hawkins created a emotional guidance scale with different energies that have like Hopelessness and despair, depression, right?

[00:19:17] Christopher Dilts: Literally giving up at the lower frequencies at the very, very highest frequencies. There is joy and love and bliss, and he calibrates it from zero to a thousand to one of the things that we can do when we're looking at a situation, a business Opportunity, a new product, a new service, a new business partnership, um, hiring staff.

[00:19:43] Christopher Dilts: We can use this scale and see how strongly aligned we are with what, where the universe wants to partner with us, right? A friendly universe, a friend that wants to help you. So much better to go with your helpful friends, [00:20:00] including angels, right? On a sailboat with the wind and the current aligned in your direction.

[00:20:06] Christopher Dilts: And to be, you know, literally rowing upstream all by yourself and we all end up in that rowboat, right? At times. So part of that energy awareness scale is also just being with wherever you are right now. Right? So let's say, for example, that we were considering. Oh, is there a business decision that you're considering?

[00:20:27] Christopher Dilts: Do you know, either choosing a or B? 

[00:20:30] Shilpa Lewis: Um, well, I recently made a conscious choice in which is to offer more what they call mastermind series and. It was after experimenting and being in a rowboat and being tossed about and, um, my conclusion comes from intuition and experience in life. But that's the direction, like I would say, the shift I'm making.

[00:20:59] Christopher Dilts: [00:21:00] So pick that and think of some, um, Smaller decision with that. It would be the equivalent of left to right, blue or green, right, up or down, like some A or B choice that's right in front of you right now. 

[00:21:14] Shilpa Lewis: Yes. Um, well, yeah, one would be how to market this new service and whether it be done by being more aggressive through email marketing, or perhaps using the podcast as a way to to promote.

[00:21:33] Christopher Dilts: Okay, perfect. So there's an A B choice, not that you can't do both, but using the podcast to promote. And I will take that to mean promoting in all the ways you can promote a podcast with digital media, uh, social media, et cetera. So, um, let's just tune it. So we'll, what we'll do is we'll close your eyes for just a moment, lift your awareness between your eyebrows, you know, to what is called the third eye or [00:22:00] the sixth chakra, your intuitive centers right between the eyebrows.

[00:22:03] Christopher Dilts: And as you lift your gaze, you have a really uplifting energy. Think of something really wonderful, something, you know, that's lifts you with excitement, joy, that it is fun. It's very childlike. It's like, I'm so excited. I feel so wonderful, right? So that activates your intuition, a positive vibration, positive energy.

[00:22:27] Christopher Dilts: And we'll just feel into marketing your podcast. And we'll just ask, um, on 0 to 1000 of all the possible things you can do right now for success in your business, how strong is marketing your podcast? And when we do this, I'd like to include a little breathing exercise. Some people just know, you know, counting their breath.

[00:22:53] Christopher Dilts: Been a 4, 4, 4 pattern. Uh, you know, you breathe in for four, hold for four, breathe out for four. It's called [00:23:00] box breathing. Really simple. But what we do when we do that, when we really want our intuition to be deep, if we can switch our nervous system from the sympathetic nervous system, the anxious nervous system that makes cortisols and adrenalines and has our mind kind of a spin, right?

[00:23:17] Christopher Dilts: That's the fight or flight to the, um. Parasympathetic nervous system where we're very relaxed, our intuition gets much clearer, right? Part of our intuition is letting go of the five senses, the external senses. Part of deepening our intuition is not being attached to any outcome, easy to say, but that's where breathing and shifting into the That relaxed state lets the attachments release much more easily, right?

[00:23:47] Christopher Dilts: So, ideally, when we're doing this, asking for intuition, we want to get a really clear course. Now, on a sailboat, you know, you have to calibrate your compass, because you might have [00:24:00] metal or the engine pulling the compass off course, and you don't even really know what direction you're going, right, until you correct that compass.

[00:24:08] Christopher Dilts: Moving into our relaxed state into that parasympathetic nervous system is like knowing that your compass now has a true north, right? True north, not being influenced by things outside of you, including your own mind, right? Which gets attached very easily, that we kind of let go. I love this affirmation whenever I'm considering something like that.

[00:24:28] Christopher Dilts: Say, please let my intuition connect with the universe. Let me get an accurate reading of 0 to 1000, and let me be unattached. Let me release and let go. Good, good, good. So when we do that for your podcasts as a prime point, not the only one as a prime point for your marketing, that has a very, very high reading.

[00:24:52] Christopher Dilts: When I read into that, it's like, you know, it goes from, um, 850, [00:25:00] 875, 880. And, um, now when you're doing that, You can really feel it, right? You can feel the energy of it. One of the strongest intuitive senses, this is called clairsentience. Sentience just means you feel it, right? You don't have to worry about clairvoyance, seeing it, clairaudience, hearing it.

[00:25:18] Christopher Dilts: You'll just feel it, that you're on the right course, you're on track. You'll feel a deeper relaxation, you'll feel more grounded, connected to the earth, more open to inspiration from above. So we go into that for you, we get, you know, okay, about 880. Great. Now, sometimes it might be 400, 300. I usually like to not take action on any kind of a inspiration or plan, unless it's at least past 850, right?

[00:25:43] Christopher Dilts: Because if it won't get up into that range, then either something needs to shift, And how you're doing it, how you're thinking about it, the opportunity, or there's something better, right? So part of this, when we start, is the affirmation, like we have a plan, we [00:26:00] come forward with it, and it's universe, this, or something better.

[00:26:05] Christopher Dilts: It's something better, we don't have to know what it is, and if something better has a higher reading, Then we'll just put that on the shelf, right? We'll put our idea on, on the B list instead of the A list. And we'll say, okay, let's go back for an A. So with your podcast marketing, let's ask what can increase that frequency, that vibration for you?

[00:26:39] Shilpa Lewis: So should I tap into the first thought that comes to mind? Yes. 

[00:26:44] Christopher Dilts: Yes. What comes to you?

[00:26:49] Shilpa Lewis: The first thought that comes to mind again, often I fight that intuition versus logic, but Um, connecting with more communities [00:27:00] so that like minded communities that are there to support one another. 

[00:27:08] Christopher Dilts: That feels very strong. And that starts to lift the energy. It starts to lift and that kind of bumps into a bit of a ceiling or a barrier.

[00:27:17] Christopher Dilts: And I'm just asking, you know, what is that barrier? And what that barrier is absolutely connecting to these groups. And, um, I'm going to be really silly with the analogies I use. But these groups need to really right away be able to tell, are you offering, um, delicious organic pizza? Are you offering sushi?

[00:27:37] Christopher Dilts: Is this a taco cart? Um, so, so really quickly they understand, um, This is, this is just basic, basic, you know, marketing one on one now. It comes down to what's in it for me, right? What is in it for me? Do I want a taco? Do I want a burrito? Do I want a pizza? Do I want sushi? So [00:28:00] really, really crisp and clear that the danger for you is that you've been involved with consciousness studies and spiritual studies for a very, very long time.

[00:28:10] Christopher Dilts: And so the temptations to be very broad, right? Very, very broad, include lots of subtopics. And those can come later, but as far as like where this energy starts to go past 900 is the equivalent of saying, Hey, you know, we're a, um, Baja fresh food truck in LA and we have the best tacos, right? We have the best of the vegan tacos in down.

[00:28:34] Christopher Dilts: So really, really clear. And so there's a quick takeaway. Then the part of the reason for this is then when you go into these communities. They can really quickly tell their members what you're about and what the benefit is. And it needs to be really solid and really simple. You'll do better with one strong topic that leads the way.

[00:28:54] Christopher Dilts: Now, once these community members are introduced and you're welcomed and they feel you and you feel [00:29:00] them, you can show them the rest of the menu. Okay, but the problem is having too big a menu up front, right? It's too much to take into too hard to understand. So this is going to be simplicity, refinement.

[00:29:15] Christopher Dilts: And of course, when you go to a different community that can shift as long as it's still there. the core offering, right? You can have different language, different presentation, but if it's going to be a Baja taco, fresh taco truck, then that's what it's going to be for all the groups. So let's, let's sit back a little bit and take a really deep breath.

[00:29:37] Christopher Dilts: Let's feel help and support for you. Yes, the simplicity first, and people will really connect with the depth and the breadth of what you understand and offer after they engage with you, after they know about you, after they meet you, after they hear a little bit. But, um, You also have a problem. [00:30:00] I'm, you know, I'm very familiar with many of my clients.

[00:30:02] Christopher Dilts: You're very intelligent, right? And so the mind, the mental body will kind of want to take over. Like one example I'll give you after, you know, doing the, um, aerospace work and three software companies and things. I, I, I, we can go to this as a separate topic. I actually had an angelic experience. I was teaching Standard meditation techniques, like we talked about, Yogananda, Swami Vivekananda, Transcendental Meditation at a, uh, Baha'i Church in San Diego, had about 50 people.

[00:30:36] Christopher Dilts: And in one of the meditations, we were doing a deep peace meditation and Archangel Michael appeared in the room. I had never consciously worked with angels, I hadn't intended to, but our group evoked Archangel Michael. And everyone in the room, our heads went back, we could feel energy, you know, flowing through our bodies.

[00:30:54] Christopher Dilts: It was obviously Archangel Michael. We all heard him and we could feel the impressions [00:31:00] and it was very, very strong. And it's sort of on topic with what we were talking about, you know, the message Michael delivered at that time is that we were in a time on earth of great choosing, that what was new and different now is that humanity was waking up to a higher level and consciously choosing Either love, right, going with love based thoughts, love based actions, love based groups to join, participate in, or fear based, right?

[00:31:30] Christopher Dilts: And so it's this time where we talked about creating our own reality, you know, Michael is there, we're there, we're realizing we have more input, more partnering, more control of this than we realize. So he went on to say, you know, this is really the time. He said throughout human history, the last few thousand years, it was like a bell shaped curve, classic bell shaped curve.

[00:31:52] Christopher Dilts: Love on one side, fear on the other, light on one side, darkness, and most people were in the middle. It wasn't very safe on either end, right? [00:32:00] But he said that curve is inverting now, it's inverting, and you can't be in the middle anymore. The polarity is too strong. We can see the polarity all around us and politics, geopolitics.

[00:32:12] Christopher Dilts: So what that means is the love is getting stronger and stronger and stronger and pulling us towards love. But then Michael went on to say, Fear will increase as well. Darkness will increase. So you're going to have a polarity increase. And the polarity, the, the, the push and pull between fear and love will get stronger and stronger.

[00:32:34] Christopher Dilts: It's going to pull you like a magnet, and you won't be able to be in the middle. You'll get pulled apart. So you're going to have to go to, To fear or over into love, and this was to, um, really encourage us to know that these polarized times are actually natural and normal doesn't mean they aren't painful and hard, but you know, giving birth to something new.

[00:32:56] Christopher Dilts: It's a lot of energy and there is a lot of pain [00:33:00] involved and mess involved. So it's the very much the polarity that is shifting consciousness. So coming back to our topic, the more we align with love, positivity, abundance for all, win, win, win, the more like that sailboat, right? We have more wind in our sails.

[00:33:15] Christopher Dilts: We're going faster. The more we choose fear, the more we're either rowing our boat. Or we're the slave on somebody else's slave gallery boat, right? With a drum and a whip, you know, to serve fear or serve darkness. Um, so here we are, looking at a choice for you, expanding, and we can feel that energy. When we really tune in with it and that energy starts going up, 800, 850, 900, then you're feeling living energy.

[00:33:44] Christopher Dilts: That's like, um, Having your hands, like when you're making bread at home, and the bread dough, and you've got, you know, and you can feel the yeast in there, and it's making its own heat and expanding, that's an energy bigger than yours that turns into delicious bread, and this kind of [00:34:00] feeling for, um, where the living energy is, that's like your compass, right?

[00:34:05] Christopher Dilts: Compass or GPS for that boat, and whenever it starts diminishing, that's just like the boat going too far one way or the other. It's diminishing. Oh, is this bad? Okay. No, something's changing, shifting. How do we get back on course? It's so often, um, especially those of us that went through, you know, a Western education, school, college, career, we're so rewarded for being smart, right?

[00:34:31] Christopher Dilts: Smart and clever. As opposed to, when are you really in tune with yourself? When are you really in tune with flow of the universe, or if you want to say the Tao, or you know, where, where that flow is. But fortunately, we're in a time. We can even talk about things, you know, most of this is unusual and new. Um, I'll say one more thing about that.

[00:34:57] Christopher Dilts: I did a lot of work with, with corporations, [00:35:00] with executive training, with some large consulting groups. And we were having a meeting one time in Washington, DC. We had several hundred, uh, C suite executives there. And I have my part of the presentation and this, uh, management consulting engagement, it isn't, it isn't.

[00:35:15] Christopher Dilts: spirit in business or a yoga center, right? It's standard high level executives. And the person who introduced me, she would always introduce me kind of as just my business bio, what I did in business and tech and what have you. And she introduced me to this large group and said, one of the things you might not know about Christopher is he's an internationally recognized angel expert.

[00:35:36] Christopher Dilts: He does a lot of work with angels and angel groups, and I'm off stage, right? I'm going, OMG, right? No, my God, no one's going to listen to a single thing I say. Now, here's this kooky angel guy coming out on stage. When I went out and I talked about what I was meant to talk about there, and I was thinking, boy, this is really will, will afford my credibility.

[00:35:58] Christopher Dilts: But you know, on every break, lunch [00:36:00] and dinner and breakfast, someone would come up to me and tell me a story about themselves or a family member. Like a woman came and said, you know, my niece, she drowned in the swimming pool in the backyard. And we called the paramedics. And, um, she was down, you know, she was not breathing for too long and, but the, the paramedics said, boy, this has been too long.

[00:36:21] Christopher Dilts: She'll, you know, she, we probably can't revive her. She'll probably have serious brain damage if we do. But, um, she was revived and she was perfectly fine and her mother asked her, Tell me what happened. And she said, well, all I know is I was surrounded in this pink bubble with angels all around me. And they said, we're holding you.

[00:36:40] Christopher Dilts: We have you, we've got you. You're going to be fine. Just relax. Right. And so, you know, people will come forward with stories. And I, and I realized that, um, that was just my own fear, right. Of feeling that need to keep things separate. So that was a breakthrough for me.[00:37:00] 

[00:37:00] Shilpa Lewis: Yeah. I've spent like, career, trying to separate them more and more and more, particularly because I came from a computer science background and then in corporate. So I trained myself not to say things like, well, how do you know whatever it is that I claim to know at different points when making decisions?

[00:37:20] Shilpa Lewis: And I would catch myself saying, don't tell them it's intuition. Which, 

[00:37:25] Christopher Dilts: yes, 

[00:37:26] Shilpa Lewis: it's because it, yes, it may have been intuition and it still is. And I'm now later in life going, it's okay to authentically arrive into who I truly am. This is why I have a picture of my guru in the background. Now, like, This is who I am, but I do think that there's a level of acceptance that is required among those people who've been in that space for long enough and we're like, oh, wow, others are getting to see it for what it is.

[00:37:56] Shilpa Lewis: Um, and hopefully there'll be a time where energy [00:38:00] work is the real medicine. 

[00:38:03] Christopher Dilts: Yes. So our theme about, um, energy awareness and tuning into it, we know we'll all keep using those analogies and metaphors like the compass on a boat or a GPS and the wind direction and the current and are we on course or not, right?

[00:38:20] Christopher Dilts: So one of the things that's so powerful is being completely non judgmental with yourself. Non critical, right? Non self critical about this. Um, if we're out on a sailboat and a storm comes. It's not personal. It's just time for storm. We happen, we happen to be there. Um, but if we, if we can really allow ourselves to be in the moment with what is really there, then we're avoiding mental attachments.

[00:38:49] Christopher Dilts: We're avoiding sticking to plans that aren't working and we're flowing where we're open to something new. Now, very often when we're looking for something stronger, we talked about [00:39:00] like an 800 or so threshold on this or to 1000 scale. When we're looking for something stronger, it's often very close to the thing we're just working with.

[00:39:09] Christopher Dilts: So we were talking with you about podcast marketing and we go back to it now, just with what, how you shifted your thoughts, your energy, right? You're feeling about it, but it's already gone past 900, right? It was at like 860, 870, 880, but now it's like nine. 20, right? 925. That's a big increase. These scales are logarithmic.

[00:39:35] Christopher Dilts: They're like the Richter scale for earthquakes where, you know, going from a six to a seven is 10 times stronger, right? Seven to an eight is 10 times stronger again. So it makes much, much more energy available, much more clarity available. It can also save, um, save really sailing far too far in the wrong direction and, and, and having to come back.

[00:39:57] Christopher Dilts: What else would be, um, helpful and practical [00:40:00] about this energy awareness topic? 

[00:40:02] Shilpa Lewis: What's interesting about what you've described is that there are practical ways like the model that you've just articulated where we tap in through, I would say, some meditation technique or mindfulness breathing to gauge what our own intuition is telling us.

[00:40:23] Shilpa Lewis: And in my case, we went through the example of, you know, how do I market a new service and tie that into, um, a success, uh, a journey that's leads to success. Now another area that we could apply it to that you and I had talked about is relationships and how do we. Utilize energy awareness for relationships and one thing that I've recently been including as my morning mantra and I have several different areas of [00:41:00] mantras that I practice is, um, learn to gauge the energy as you walk into a room, learn to gauge your own energy.

[00:41:11] Shilpa Lewis: And the first thing I asked myself, one of the first things I asked myself each morning is, Where is my energy? What is my state of energy? Um, and the reason I do that is where that energy is. Let's say I'm irritated. Then I'm out of alignment with my higher soul, my higher purpose. But if I wake up feeling really still.

[00:41:35] Shilpa Lewis: And even feel even more calm through that quick morning meditation. Now it's, it's a vibration. Like I think of it as, um, looking at water and it feels still, and that's the reflection on who you are, where you're at. So perhaps you and I can now just spend a few moments talking about how this [00:42:00] information can help us gauge and manage relationship because all of us Get hits with intuition on how to manage.

[00:42:12] Shilpa Lewis: I mean, I can, I can just tell you one quick example is, um, I had volunteered to help someone in our neighborhood and we came to the conclusion that it wouldn't work for her for a variety of reasons. And it was a carpool situation with our children's. And after she had left, I had thought, you know what?

[00:42:34] Shilpa Lewis: I'm one of those people who's considered probably OCD, but I'm like, we need to do a wrap up. And make sure we're all on the same page. Well, um, my interpretation was that she was not going to be a part of this carpool. My husband felt that way, but I didn't do the wrap up conversation. And so there was this openness to it.

[00:42:58] Shilpa Lewis: And, um, but it, by all [00:43:00] means, it sounded like we had walked away thinking we're not going to do it. Well, comes back that she thought we were going to be supporting her and that kind of blew up in her face. So sometimes. That, that nudge from your gut, your nudge from your inside, is telling you what to do with relationships.

[00:43:19] Shilpa Lewis: And maybe you have other, um, tools or examples. 

[00:43:25] Christopher Dilts: You know, you're what you're talking about is a perfect example of not being mentally bound, mentally attached to a plan or an idea. One example, one time I was taking a train to Portland, Oregon from Eugene, Oregon. I was going to, I had a client that was a high tech startup.

[00:43:41] Christopher Dilts: Invented some really amazing high end security software for corporations and data centers. And it was really, really fantastic. But they were failing with the marketing of it. That they, they weren't able, their goal is to get one big flag account, right? Some big enterprise account that would [00:44:00] put them on the map.

[00:44:00] Christopher Dilts: And so we've been working and working on these plans, you know, complicated marketing strategies, how to do this or that. And as I was getting on the train and walking down the aisle, Um, there were a few open seats with tables. And I thought, I'll sit down and sit down at the table. I have still more work to do.

[00:44:20] Christopher Dilts: I have a two hour train ride. It's really important. I, you know, get this done. And I felt this nudge to go three more seats forward and sit down at another two seats with the table. But there was already a woman there working on a computer. And my mind and myself is like, I don't want to sit there. I want my own table.

[00:44:36] Christopher Dilts: I want my own space. I have important work to do. I'm too important to be, you know, this is a big deal, but I just felt this nudge. I went, okay. And I sat down and opened my computer. It was a brand new laptop. And she had a curiosity about it. She said, Oh, I was thinking of buying one of those. How do you like it?

[00:44:51] Christopher Dilts: And we got into this discussion and it turned out she was a purchasing officer for IBM and the network products [00:45:00] division, exactly the right person for IBM. And I started showing her the presentation I was working on that we were going to finish in Portland and she loved it and she gave me her business card and said, um, you know, we, we really are interested in partnering with this project.

[00:45:16] Christopher Dilts: So when I got to my Portland client, they wanted to know the business, but I said, I think we have it here. Here's her card. And here's her number. I said, let's call her right now. She said we could call her. Right. So we called her on the, on the speaker phones. And that's the example of, um, not being attached.

[00:45:32] Christopher Dilts: If I had done what up my, you know, small personality wanted to do, I want my own space. I want elbow room. I don't want to, you know, that opportunity wouldn't have come about. And we might've spent A whole year and never accomplished that.

[00:45:54] Shilpa Lewis: Yeah. Sorry, I was on mute. I keep a log of, um, moments of [00:46:00] serendipity and I think that ties in with relationships and energy awareness. 'cause serendipity is something, at least for me, again, the highly logical, rational person that I tend to become, or, um, moments of serendipity are there constantly. If you don't listen to that nudge.

[00:46:17] Shilpa Lewis: The relationships that will be very fruitful for your highest purpose, highest journey, are sometimes muted. And I feel like you're an example of going with that gut and sitting down next to it. The plan was already in place. Things were set in motion. Things were working out for you. And all you had to do was set the intention and then trust.

[00:46:46] Shilpa Lewis: I feel like that is very true. For even our relationships. 

[00:46:51] Christopher Dilts: Yes, you're so right on, and you know, we have that term, that phrase, serendipity, when it becomes observable to us, right? That now, oh, now [00:47:00] we see it, or feel it, or hear it, or know it, serendipity. And yet what that is, is really the synchronicity of the universe.

[00:47:07] Christopher Dilts: It was there, we just weren't seeing it, or we weren't aware of it, right? And now we're aware of it. That's like being aware of the tide, you know, for your ship, or The wind direction, so that divine order is there, that friendly universe is wanting to help us. But when we get very anxious and worried, frustrated, we get mentally bound, we're in our anxious nervous system, right?

[00:47:33] Christopher Dilts: Then I would have sat down at my own table and not had that experience or, or these things. So that's that, you know, and we have to keep reminding ourself, it's a friendly nudge, it's something helpful. I mean, another silly example. Is, you know, like if I have a bug in my house, I will get a jar and a paper and I'll take it out, right?

[00:47:52] Christopher Dilts: And, you know, does that bug realize I'm trying to help it? No, it doesn't have a high enough consciousness, so it will fight, right? I'm trying to [00:48:00] save its life and put it in a good environment and it's fighting, fighting, fighting. That's our ego and our personality. It's just like that, like this hopeful hands of the universe want to help us, carry us, place us somewhere else.

[00:48:14] Christopher Dilts: And we're fighting the change because it didn't fit our mental picture, right? Or our personality likes. So that's, um, you know, this is a practice like. tennis, like yoga, like anything, we practice it and we get better and better. And then there's that combination, right? Creativity again, yin and yang, masculine and feminine.

[00:48:34] Christopher Dilts: There's the planning, the strategy, the thinking, right? But you know what we think of as yang energies, yang consciousness, but then there's the yin of being able to let go and receive, right? So that and then their equal, the ability to set the intention to take action and then completely let go. One of the most powerful things.

[00:48:57] Christopher Dilts: is having an intention like we're talking about, [00:49:00] working on it while we feel low, while we feel aligned, and then stopping, and And completely letting go of it, hand it right back to the universe, say, you know, I've done my part for today or for the week. I'm letting go completely. You work on it now, right?

[00:49:15] Christopher Dilts: And that needs to be us not interfering with that, right? Like a gardener. If you planted, if you planted seeds, you can't dig them up and look at them every day to let the natural process, the sun, the earth, the growth process happen. And when we stay too attached to our concepts or ideas. We're preventing those natural energies, right, from letting that thing grow the other highest intention, right, is when you really have a high one, a big one, an important one, even your podcast, part of it is realizing that Am I willing to plant that like a seed and let go of it?

[00:49:53] Christopher Dilts: Am I willing to be the gardener of it, or what they used to call husbandry, right? Animal husbandry, [00:50:00] or like a good farmer, a good gardener. Am I really willing to let this have its own life, to be what it's meant to be? That's like parents, right? The difference between parents who really look at a child's nature and say, Oh my goodness, she's a dancer, he's a violinist, or he's a potter, or whatever, he's a little scientist, or she's, you know, loves healing.

[00:50:20] Christopher Dilts: Um. It's like being willing to let that seed intention grow into the kind of seed it is. Is it an acorn? Then it wants to be an oak tree. Right? Is it an apple seed? An apple tree. A cherry? A cherry tree. Again, kind of letting go. Like, are we willing to let that have its own life when I've I've worked with clients that will do that and they're, you know, the results have really been phenomenal.

[00:50:43] Christopher Dilts: Would you like to hear like a client story about that? 

[00:50:47] Shilpa Lewis: Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And I love the fact that we can provide examples as we talk about concepts. And the concept here really was about this yin and yang and the balance between taking [00:51:00] action. Having an intention, having a plan, but then being able to through energy awareness, becoming aware that we are not the doer there is there, which is the hardest part because you're just like, wait a minute, I just strategize.

[00:51:16] Shilpa Lewis: I just planned. I just did. You're telling me I'm not the doer. No. 

[00:51:22] Christopher Dilts: Well, one of my client's story really embodies a lot of what we're talking about. She was a very highly educated, very intelligent German psychiatrist, and she had a psychiatric practice, and she had five psychologists working with her. She was the psychiatrist and MD, and her practice was in a castle she had leased for 35 years in Germany.

[00:51:44] Christopher Dilts: So she and the five psychologists. And she more and more as we were working together over the course of a few years got very clear that her primary purpose was helping children. Who had been diagnosed with mental conditions that have them removed from [00:52:00] school, whether it was ADD or whether it was along the spectrum of Asperger's or, or, um, um, autism.

[00:52:07] Christopher Dilts: And she was able to have about 90 percent of the children go back to school. So as she got clearer and clearer about that, her practice started to grow again, very intelligent, very German. You know how libertarian Germans can be. She had said no matter what. I never want to take my practice out of this castle, at least for 35 years.

[00:52:29] Christopher Dilts: Well, over the course of two years, her practice grew to have five more psychiatrists, 25 psychologists, another 25 to 30 holistic healers that did everything from, uh, Massage to cranial sacral work and, um, her practice just kept growing and growing and growing and she did have to move out of the castle, but this German architect who built special buildings for healings that, you know, they met and he built this building, the other thing that kept coming up.

[00:52:59] Christopher Dilts: I'm going to use this [00:53:00] as a example of mental resistance. You know, month after month, it would come up about how powerful it would be for her to write a book. And this book wanted to have its own life, a life of its own. And Catherine, being her very intelligent German manner, said, Christopher, I am not a writer.

[00:53:16] Christopher Dilts: I do not have time to try to write a book. I am not even organized to do such a thing. I can't even imagine then writing a book proposal and going door to door, like a door to door salesman, trying to get someone to publish it. This is just a, Not for me, right? But it kept coming up and month after month, right?

[00:53:32] Christopher Dilts: I would bring it up and she would say no. And then finally, it was very strong again one time. And I said, Catherine, I have something to bring up that not that book. I said, I'm just going to bring it up for a moment. Um, here's, would you be willing to do this this Sunday and having tea in the morning?

[00:53:50] Christopher Dilts: Would you be willing to set a place for this book? The energy of it, the conscious of it. I mean, actually set the chair there or a cup of tea and just be with it for the time. It takes you to drink [00:54:00] your tea. And if you'll do that, I will never bring it up again unless you want me to. Okay, so she did that, just this simple process of really being like feeling, what is this book really?

[00:54:11] Christopher Dilts: What is, you know, what does this want to be? Who is it? And then she'll put the very next week, she again, like you said, right, it was synchronicity, but serendipity at the time. She just bumped into a woman in a bookstore in, in, uh, Germany was the number one author for self help books in Europe. And they started talking and the woman loved this of helping children.

[00:54:36] Christopher Dilts: And she said, well, Dr, you know, Dr. Catherine, if, um, you just dictate it to me bits and pieces while you're driving, doing the dishes, I'll write the book for you. And she said, I'm going to set up a meeting with my publisher. A week later, she met the president of the biggest publishing company in Germany.

[00:54:52] Christopher Dilts: She came out of the meeting with a hundred thousand euro advance and a writer and a book deal. And I only say this because She [00:55:00] resisted this like crazy for almost two years, right? And these things we resist, but it's like knocking on our door and we just, we just don't want to go to the door because we think we're too busy.

[00:55:13] Shilpa Lewis: And I, I could talk to you, but so many examples of in life where that concept of resistance, serendipity, synchronicity, it's that, whether the yin or yang, but it's the part where we release the energy. We know that there's something knocking on the door, like you were saying, and we might be resisting it.

[00:55:34] Shilpa Lewis: For me, it was becoming an entrepreneur. For years, we're talking years of maybe you offline. I'll share the examples, but being in corporate where my real core personality all along should have been being an entrepreneur. Um, there are so many things that we could go deeper in. I would love for you to come back one day so that we can even go further.

[00:55:58] Shilpa Lewis: Cause the concept [00:56:00] of just serendipity, synchronicity, and going back to, I want to call it faith. Having faith in that higher force. Lately, another mantra that I practice each morning is when I practice meditation, my intellectual mind, the one that also has all the monkeys, sometimes steps in and asks me to, um, understand, well, am I doing it right?

[00:56:28] Shilpa Lewis: Whatever that is. In my case, it's Kriya. Am I doing it right? Is anything happening? I don't see anything. It's all subtle. Maybe it's too subtle. And what I remind myself is trust the process and then release the energy. 

[00:56:46] Christopher Dilts: When you were, when you were speaking earlier, you were so wrong. When we really get better and better at tuning into that living energy, that energy bigger than us, it will always lead us to the best course, even if we don't [00:57:00] intellectually understand it or we can't even articulate it clearly.

[00:57:04] Christopher Dilts: But when we can feel it increase and we go in that direction, that's us walking towards the Friendly Universe and every step forward we take, it takes ten steps to us. Right? We walk one step to it and one yes and we get ten yeses back. That sounds simple. But it can be quite difficult to quiet the mind chatter, quiet the thought, quiet, you know, the negativity within us and around us and say, I know, but it feels so good to go this way, right?

[00:57:35] Christopher Dilts: I mean, I can just feel that it's, energy bigger than me, wind at my back, just have to go this way. And then that, that really makes what you were saying earlier, it tremendously increases the opportunity for serendipity, right? To be in tune with the synchronicity. So it literally puts us, I call it a miracle field.

[00:57:55] Christopher Dilts: It puts us in a field of space of energy of being where miracles are much more likely [00:58:00] and even miracles. Or again, just us seeing the miracle that was already wanting to be present and manifest and create. 

[00:58:10] Shilpa Lewis: And bringing that point you just made, um, about then taking that, harnessing that energy and then, Seeing things manifest.

[00:58:22] Shilpa Lewis: I feel like if we come back full circle to the points you had made at the beginning of this podcast, you're reinforcing the point you had made that. And again, these may not have been the words you use, but that the perception of our reality, whether it's this thing that's very positive. And the world is wonderful.

[00:58:42] Shilpa Lewis: The universe has our back. Things are growing and expanding. Versus on the polar side, that things are dark, there is war, there's negativity or disease. I feel like we tune our energy. And it is a lot of work. [00:59:00] It's iterative at times, like a program. But we, through the practice of these techniques in faith, can align with the positive part.

[00:59:12] Shilpa Lewis: Do you, do you feel that way? 

[00:59:14] Christopher Dilts: Yes, you're, you're, that's so important that we keep holding that focus, coming back to that focus. I talked about how a boat never stays 100 percent on course, we come back and come back and come back. And focusing on these positives, these intentions, doing that process of working, letting go, He reminded me one time when I was, uh, you know, a young teenager, I went sailing with a very experienced sailor, and we suddenly got caught up in a really bad storm.

[00:59:42] Christopher Dilts: The squall just came up, you know, the conditions changed, it was, um, really dangerous, and we were, you know, we were cresting these waves, and I kind of have to go across. The wave, right, to not capsize and we came over this one big massive wave and I saw what looked like a [01:00:00] thousand more waves, right? And I, I turned to, to my friend who, you know, is the captain of the boat and I said, we'll never make it over all those waves.

[01:00:07] Christopher Dilts: We're never going to make it over all those waves, right? It was like, Oh my God, how could we? And he just said, Christopher, you know, take a breath. We're going to do one wave at a time. We could make it over one wave. Make it over one wave. I only say that because. When we're in such polarized times, such turbulent times, it can often feel like we're sailing on a stormy sea.

[01:00:31] Christopher Dilts: And can we make it over the one wave in front of us if we keep our focus right, we, we know we're going to get back on course, we know the storm won't last forever. So you know what, I am meant to be on this course. I am meant to get to this destination. This storm is something that I'm going to flow with and get through.

[01:00:50] Christopher Dilts: And that's holding that focus on love, knowing as she said that the universe is our partner, it's working with us, that we will get to that destination. [01:01:00] 

[01:01:01] Shilpa Lewis: Wonderful, Christopher. This is, um, just so profound. And again, like I mentioned, I, my, my mind is just like thinking of a thousand things I could go deeper on.

[01:01:12] Shilpa Lewis: Now, to bring this back to, you've given us a framework. Remind us again the name of that framework where you ask a thousand, or, you know, there's a scale. Scale. 

[01:01:24] Christopher Dilts: Oh, yes, that that's that zero to 1000 scale. And I work with an energy awareness scale. But if you wanted to see that in a practical point that Dr.

[01:01:33] Christopher Dilts: David Hawkins book power versus force that has the scale in it, or if you Google emotional guidance scale, you'll probably get a chart. I like to keep that chart even right by my computer just to remind me when I like I have a client meeting or a group meeting ago. Where's this group on the scale right now?

[01:01:50] Christopher Dilts: You know, where's this individual? And we accept it exactly as it is. And then we just ask, how can we raise it? I have some really good stories [01:02:00] about that too, which we'll stay for another time. 

[01:02:02] Shilpa Lewis: Yeah, no, I would love to hear that story. Um, I genuinely enjoyed our deep conversation, um, when you're available again, let's go deeper into those stories because I know that a lot of us learn from example.

[01:02:16] Shilpa Lewis: Now, one. Burning question I have that I will just throw out there that for someone like myself who often thinks there's where are the angels? I want to see them. I want to feel them. How do I know they're there? Like I I have the angel cards, but I don't I it's I think it's because my mind is always trying to be too Logical too rational.

[01:02:37] Shilpa Lewis: I have to seal it and feel it But just if you could leave the audience with that little piece of information thing. How do you know? You 

[01:02:47] Christopher Dilts: You know, I'm really, what I would say, the simple, simple, simple, keep it simple is find a breathing technique or pranayama that works for you, whether it's like four, four, four box breathing or some other, you know, [01:03:00] there's a three part yoga breath, find a breathing that works, that'll really help you relax, shift into your relaxed state, right?

[01:03:08] Christopher Dilts: Move from simply parasympathetic and then focus on a quality that maybe you want more peace right now. Thank you. Or maybe you want more, um, Feeling more grounded, or maybe you really want, uh, to feel calm. So there are, you know, anything that you, any quality, any energy that you can experience or feel, there's an attending angel for that vibration that embodies that frequency, that vibration, that feeling.

[01:03:38] Christopher Dilts: So if we wanted to have more hope, we can literally just say, I call upon the angel and, you know, angel of hope. Remember there, an angel is an energy. energetic being, an energy source, it radiates energy, it radiates light, it radiates love, like a star does in the nighttime sky. It's just at a frequency that many [01:04:00] people don't know.

[01:04:01] Christopher Dilts: See or hear or feel directly, but you'll feel the energy from it, right? You know, right? Um, angel of hope, bring me more hope, right? And then that angel will come and you might feel some associated feelings, you know, hope is a high vibration. So you let that angel radiate it, you receive it. You might pretend that you're a tree receiving sunlight, right?

[01:04:20] Christopher Dilts: Or a flower in a flower garden receiving water. Feel that energy of hope come into you. And expand, and that will shift your thinking, shift your feelings. So anything that you can feel or think, any quality of being, there's an angel that holds that frequency or vibration in the, uh, They're torn. The Jewish tradition, they say over every blade of grass, there's an angel bending, saying, grow, grow.

[01:04:51] Christopher Dilts: So imagine creation where everything in creation is given an attending angel, a guardian angel that holds the [01:05:00] divine plan, divine blueprint, like an architect, right? The perfect form of that blade of grass, the perfect form of that Oak tree, the acorn will become. So there's that friendly, helpful universe holding a form, holding an intention.

[01:05:14] Christopher Dilts: And then we're just saying yes, right? And letting that positive energy expand, whether it's hope, um, happiness or calmness or peace there in order that they can War, peace to you and through you.

[01:05:31] Shilpa Lewis: And I love the analogy or the, how you described it, that these angels are really matching the vibration that I've never thought of, but that's puts it into a new perspective for me. Now, those who would like to work with you, Christopher, I will have your information in the show notes, but is there anything you'd like to share with the audience so that they can, um, you know, reach out and know what they can work with you [01:06:00] on?

[01:06:01] Christopher Dilts: Yes. I do a lot of group work, both online and in person, and you know, when we form a circle that amplifies and deepens and strengthens experience, whether it's in person or via Zoom. So, participating like that a few times. You, you know, you'll feel your vibration shift and expand. I also do one-on-one sessions with people where we can help, you know, your intuition open.

[01:06:23] Christopher Dilts: Everybody has different opportunities for opening. Everybody has different blocks, right? That are restricting. And it, it, I, I would just say, you know, we can make it very simple, like learning to have a better tennis serve or a better yoga awesome pose. And, but, and then you practice it, right? And it gets clear and clearer.

[01:06:41] Christopher Dilts: So yes. Um, um, we'll share, uh. Facebook group, the Ask an Angel Facebook group and Eventbrite, and people can also reach out individually at that website, askanangel. org, if they'd like an individual session. I always record the sessions and they're just packed [01:07:00] with guidance and information. 

[01:07:03] Shilpa Lewis: Thank you. Thank you, Christopher.

[01:07:04] Shilpa Lewis: Yes. I genuinely encourage people to look in the show notes and reach out to Christopher. And I can't wait to go deeper into the topics we discussed. I certainly got a lot out of it. Now, Christopher, thank you so much for this beautiful conversation around energy awareness. And intuition for work and relationships and I really enjoyed your time.

[01:07:29] Shilpa Lewis: I hope you have a wonderful day. 

[01:07:32] Christopher Dilts: Yes, I love this time with you and I love how you're working so hard to help people shift to that higher consciousness, right? 

[01:07:39] Shilpa Lewis: Yes, yes, shift to higher consciousness. And we can do it, um, together. 

[01:07:46] Christopher Dilts: You certainly can. 

[01:07:48] Shilpa Lewis: Thank you.